Can it be true what Jesus said about wealth?

  • September 6, 2011 at 12:43 am #2023
    Jeremy Krenzelak
    Keymaster

    I must admit that I am a bit confused since I watched a TV show last night. It was a series called “Who was Jesus?”. I caught the last part of the show, but the narrator was talking about how poor Jesus was and how he socialized with some very downtrodden people. They were talking about the palace of Pontius Pilate and how ornate and lavish it was as a contrast to how Jesus lived.

    Then, the narrator commented that Jesus said “He who is wealthy cannot serve God”. I am not that familiar enough with the Bible to confirm that.

    How is this statement to be interpreted? You probably know where I am going with the next question. If this is true, how can we manifest our own abundance of money and still serve God? :unsure:

    September 6, 2011 at 3:41 am #2036
    Christine Schumann
    Participant

    [quote=”[email protected]” post=1480]I must admit that I am a bit confused since I watched a TV show last night. It was a series called “Who was Jesus?”. I caught the last part of the show, but the narrator was talking about how poor Jesus was and how he socialized with some very downtrodden people. They were talking about the palace of Pontius Pilate and how ornate and lavish it was as a contrast to how Jesus lived.

    Then, the narrator commented that Jesus said “He who is wealthy cannot serve God”. I am not that familiar enough with the Bible to confirm that.

    How is this statement to be interpreted? You probably know where I am going with the next question. If this is true, how can we manifest our own abundance of money and still serve God? :unsure:[/quote]

    Who is GOD to you? Who are you serving? :blink: :silly:

    September 6, 2011 at 4:26 am #2039
    Jeremy Krenzelak
    Keymaster

    To me God is me, everyone, and everything on this planet and everything in the universe…all things, with no exception.

    September 6, 2011 at 7:07 am #2045
    Christine Schumann
    Participant

    [quote=”[email protected]” post=1496]To me God is me, everyone, and everything on this planet and everything in the universe…all things, with no exception.[/quote]

    So, you are serving yourself, right? :silly:

    September 6, 2011 at 7:22 am #2046
    Christine Schumann
    Participant

    [quote=”[email protected]” post=1496]To me God is me, everyone, and everything on this planet and everything in the universe…all things, with no exception.[/quote]

    I think it has to do with from which place you manifest from and if you are attached to it.

    I don’t know the Bible all that well either, but that’s what I’m feeling… GOD wants us to be wealthy and abundant, but it is HOW we go about it. Do we manifest it coming from a place of Love or a place of fear? Fear as in, using violence and suppression for personal gain. :blink:

    September 6, 2011 at 7:23 am #2047
    Jeremy Krenzelak
    Keymaster

    Right! What you are saying sounds good, like it is as it should be. Some people want wealth just to collect “stuff”, and I think if a person accumulates wealth with the intention of using it to expand their life in joyful ways then that’s a different story. :unsure:

    September 7, 2011 at 5:02 am #2057
    Amanda Devine
    Keymaster

    [quote=”[email protected]” post=1480]I must admit that I am a bit confused since I watched a TV show last night. It was a series called “Who was Jesus?”. I caught the last part of the show, but the narrator was talking about how poor Jesus was and how he socialized with some very downtrodden people. They were talking about the palace of Pontius Pilate and how ornate and lavish it was as a contrast to how Jesus lived.

    Then, the narrator commented that Jesus said “He who is wealthy cannot serve God”. I am not that familiar enough with the Bible to confirm that.

    How is this statement to be interpreted? You probably know where I am going with the next question. If this is true, how can we manifest our own abundance of money and still serve God? :unsure:[/quote]

    There are scientists who study the life of Jesus that say that Jesus was a very wealthy person himself. He chose that kind of life as it was his mission to do.

    Also, when Jesus says about money, you will find through the bible that he encorages wealth. He talks about servents that were given money to invest and he prays the ones that made a profit. What he really means by money is that money by itself cannot be a sole purpose. We need to grow in love. When we do that, everything grows in our lives, including the money. He means the love for ourselves. When we grow in love for ourselves we love everyone around us more than ever loved before. 🙂

    September 7, 2011 at 8:14 am #2058
    Lynn Thompson
    Participant

    I too saw a documentary about Jesus and to my surprise, he was a wealthy man.

    Like any of the great theological books they have meaning according to who is doing the inturprition.

    I once heard “money is, as money does”.
    I have been rich and I have been poor. I like being rich better. But wealth is not measured in $$$$$. Wealth is measured in happiness, gratitude, and how we can help the world be a better place.
    How do we do this? One thought, one action, one person at a time.

    I have to begin with myself.

    September 8, 2011 at 7:37 am #2060
    Jolanta Luty
    Participant

    After spending all of my savings to pay for treatments and in danger of losing my apartment which I had worked so hard to obtain, now I finally have come to realize what is most important to me and what really counts. Money and all the material things do not mean anything to me now. There is no room in my heart for regrets and longing. Is it deprivation when we are denied a normal life? And what really are deprivation and a normal life? Even though I don’t have any material goods now I feel much richer than ever before. My goal is to achieve peace in my heart and be happy and grateful for each day that I feel no pain .And when I finally ended up with nothing, when I lost everything that I had strived to accomplish over nine years of hard work in the U.S., I have begun to feel free. The only thing of any significance to me is peace within myself and freedom from meeting everyone’s expectations. I have started to gradually discover my life’s inner space. Going through those hard moments have enabled me to truly see who I am. I am trying to free myself from the old preconceived and still existing mental structures in order to find in myself that part that has not awakened yet.

    September 8, 2011 at 9:16 am #2062
    Amanda Devine
    Keymaster

    [quote=”[email protected]” post=1515]I too saw a documentary about Jesus and to my surprise, he was a wealthy man.

    Like any of the great theological books they have meaning according to who is doing the inturprition.

    I once heard “money is, as money does”.
    I have been rich and I have been poor. I like being rich better. But wealth is not measured in $$$$$. Wealth is measured in happiness, gratitude, and how we can help the world be a better place.
    How do we do this? One thought, one action, one person at a time.

    I have to begin with myself.[/quote]

    Awesome comment!!! :woohoo:

    September 8, 2011 at 9:27 am #2063
    Amanda Devine
    Keymaster

    [quote=”[email protected]” post=1517]After spending all of my savings to pay for treatments and in danger of losing my apartment which I had worked so hard to obtain, now I finally have come to realize what is most important to me and what really counts. Money and all the material things do not mean anything to me now. There is no room in my heart for regrets and longing. Is it deprivation when we are denied a normal life? And what really are deprivation and a normal life? Even though I don’t have any material goods now I feel much richer than ever before. My goal is to achieve peace in my heart and be happy and grateful for each day that I feel no pain .And when I finally ended up with nothing, when I lost everything that I had strived to accomplish over nine years of hard work in the U.S., I have begun to feel free. The only thing of any significance to me is peace within myself and freedom from meeting everyone’s expectations. I have started to gradually discover my life’s inner space. Going through those hard moments have enabled me to truly see who I am. I am trying to free myself from the old preconceived and still existing mental structures in order to find in myself that part that has not awakened yet.[/quote]

    Wow!!! Thank you for your awesome thoughts!!! :woohoo:

    I teach homeless and unemployed people that I call Adventurer’s Club. Those people for many can seem like at the very bottom of the society. But they have something that every person dreams about. They have freedom from materialistic possession. I have never thought that I might look at it that way. I was like you Jolanta, all my life working hard to make money. Teaching those people I have realized that I have the best of both worlds. I have the freedom, as I have my own business, that I set my own hours and I have the money to enjoy that freedom. I have found that those people from Adventurer’s Club don’t want to lose their freedom. They don’t want to get attached to materialistic things. I strongly believe that what Jesus wanted to point to us. (And again I am talking about the wisdom of the Bible) He wanted to point to us that we should have abundance of everything in every area of our lives, including plenty of money, but for us to be truly happy we need to sustain our freedom. Have the happiness to be our guide in life, the happiness in love, not the money. Money should remain as a vehicle to get us what we want, but not the purpose in itself. I found a very interesting thing. When we keep love in our hearts, money follows in abundance. I am telling you that from my and others experience. :woohoo:

    Why do thing that happens? Why when we feel love, money follows?

    September 10, 2011 at 1:57 am #2087
    Christine Schumann
    Participant

    [quote]There are scientists who study the life of Jesus that say that Jesus was a very wealthy person himself. He chose that kind of life as it was his mission to do.

    Also, when Jesus says about money, you will find through the bible that he encorages wealth. He talks about servents that were given money to invest and he prays the ones that made a profit. What he really means by money is that money by itself cannot be a sole purpose. We need to grow in love. When we do that, everything grows in our lives, including the money. He means the love for ourselves. When we grow in love for ourselves we love everyone around us more than ever loved before. :)[/quote]

    by loving ourselves we also create the feeling of “deserving”. Therefore, we are inviting abundance into our life and gratefully accept it. :cheer:

    September 10, 2011 at 2:03 am #2088
    Christine Schumann
    Participant

    [quote=”[email protected]” post=1515]I too saw a documentary about Jesus and to my surprise, he was a wealthy man.

    Like any of the great theological books they have meaning according to who is doing the inturprition.

    I once heard “money is, as money does”.
    I have been rich and I have been poor. I like being rich better. But wealth is not measured in $$$$$. Wealth is measured in happiness, gratitude, and how we can help the world be a better place.
    How do we do this? One thought, one action, one person at a time.

    I have to begin with myself.[/quote]

    I absolutely agree! And like Amanda said, they are just scientists and archeologists who are “guessing” – giving us their opinion. I watched part of a show last night called “who was Jesus?”. There, they even suggested that he grew up poor and remainded poor throughout his adult life.

    These are all opinions – somebody’s reality – somebody’s illusion. B)

    September 10, 2011 at 7:16 am #2100
    Amanda Devine
    Keymaster

    [quote=”[email protected]” post=1544][quote]There are scientists who study the life of Jesus that say that Jesus was a very wealthy person himself. He chose that kind of life as it was his mission to do.

    Also, when Jesus says about money, you will find through the bible that he encorages wealth. He talks about servents that were given money to invest and he prays the ones that made a profit. What he really means by money is that money by itself cannot be a sole purpose. We need to grow in love. When we do that, everything grows in our lives, including the money. He means the love for ourselves. When we grow in love for ourselves we love everyone around us more than ever loved before. :)[/quote]

    by loving ourselves we also create the feeling of “deserving”. Therefore, we are inviting abundance into our life and gratefully accept it. :cheer:[/quote]

    Brilliant comment!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

    Why else? :huh:

    September 10, 2011 at 7:22 am #2101
    Amanda Devine
    Keymaster

    Jolanta is going to Poland tomorrow and she asked me to post that she is going to prove to the doctors that she is going to be OK!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

    She also said that one lady offered gave her money for the trip. She said that everything is working for her.

    We have you in our hearts, Jolanta. Have fun and we all see you perfectly healthy!!! :kiss: :woohoo: :kiss:

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